Elon Musk has sat down with Joe Rogan for the pair's third wide-ranging interview.
The two have previously talked about the future, colonising Mars, brain chips, artificial intelligence, Tesla, SpaceX, The Boring Group and everything in between.
Their third interview was no different and Musk made a bold claim about where he sees the future of cars going.
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When asked about the next Tesla Roadster, the Tesla founder revealed he wants to see it get off the ground...literally.
"I want it to hover, and I was trying to figure out how to make this thing hover without, you know, killing people," Musk told Joe Rogan.
"Maybe it can hover like a meter above the ground, or something like that. If you plummet it'll blow out the suspension but you're not gonna die.
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"Maybe, I don't know, six feet. If we put a height limit on it, it will probably be fine."
That sounds promising.
Considering the Roadster is meant to hit the market next year, it would be incredibly surprising to pull off hover technology that passes regulatory checks in that amount of time. But, as we've seen with Tesla in the past, anything is possible.
If Musk can't manage to get it to hover off the ground then he has another trick up his sleeve.
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"At a minimum, I'm confident we could do a thruster where the license plate flips down, James Bond-style, and there would be a rocket thruster behind it, and that gives you three tons of thrust," he said on the programme.
When asked about his ambitions for SpaceX, he was similarly looking well beyond what most people expect.
The tech billionaire has been pushing his cosmos company to get people into space as quickly and safely as possible.
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He's previously suggested there could be commercial space flights by the end of the year, but his bigger goal will be to get humans not just on Mars, but living there.
"We're trying to make life multi-planetary," he said. "We're trying to extend life beyond Earth. In order to do that, you have to have high tonnage to Mars. That means you need a big rocket, and you need to fly a lot."
His been testing his SpaceX rocket Starship recently and most have been exploding messes.
The company carried out a high-altitude flight test of Starship serial number 9 (SN9) last week, which was 'the second high-altitude suborbital flight test of a Starship prototype from our site in Cameron County, Texas'.
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A live stream of the flight showed how the rocket launched successfully, but exploded on impact when it made an attempt to land.
SpaceX principal integration engineer John Insprucker commented on SpaceX's livestream of the test flight: "We had, again, another great flight up. We've got a lot of good data on flap control, we've just got to work on that landing a little bit."
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