Joe Rogan has had many different types of guests on his pretty popular podcast over the years but few have made him feel as uncomfortable as Oz Pearlman.
Despite experiencing the psychoactive drink Ayahuasca recently and being taken to another dimension through a 'chemical gateway', it seems as if Pearlman's magic act was still the most shocked the American host has been in some time.
Rogan was also left stunned by the prediction of AI experts after their admittedly bleak doomsday prediction but if there's one thing AI can't currently do, it's guess things about you that you don't even tell your wife.
And that's exactly what ultramarathon runner Oz managed to do on Rogan's latest podcast episode, as he exposed a secret that left one of America's chattiest men pretty much lost for words.
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At first, the Wizard of Oz asks Joe to give him a random four digit code, that isn't connected to his ATM code, and he says 2020.
From that, Pearlman is able to identify that the first number of Rogan's actual code is a one, because apparently men like to make things bigger than they actually are, and then he also ascertains that the largest number is the fourth one.
Cautious not to reveal the 57-year-old's pin code live on video or in front of the podcast cameras, Pearlman then shows his interviewer a four-digit answer, and asks 'how did I do Joe?'
Oz, who came third in America's Got Talent for his skills as a mentalist, seems to have got it right as Rogan replies: "Yeah, that's weird. I'm sceptical because I've got that pin code in the mail. Yeah I don't like that."
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The experienced podcaster is clearly left very uncomfortable by what he's just witnessed, as you naturally would be if someone had just correctly guessed four numbers at random.
Fortunately, it seems as if the podcast guest isn't planning to use his mental powers for evil, which is a relief given that people out there are falling for scammers pretending to be Owen Wilson, so who knows what they'd accidentally reveal if they spoke to a bloke as smart as Oz.
Given that Rogan has a particular proclivity for conspiracy theories he may well be left questioning just how Pearlman managed to complete this feat live on air for some time now, but I don't think the aliens had anything to do with this one Joe.
James Moorhouse